Quote:The reason tyr warriors all of them are not great is because unless you got them really good gear they dont do good dmg and the 1 debuf they got does not make up the diffrnce a 3rd summoner or dagger can do.

My party setup is 3 summoners all ES 1 BH spolier and a TK.

IF I go to GF I have a 97 mastro warrior.

Yes thats true, tyrrs dont do good dmg. Are maestros that good? You dont even need a healer?

You need to think about fast mob kills, so in my opinion for more half kills, so fast kills. I use setup like this:

1 - Tanker or Replace for tyrr
2 - Iss Hierophant (fast reuse)
3 - Healer
4 - Othel
5 - Spoil
6 - Sumoner (light elf)
7 - Another Othel or Sumoner

This a pt for fast kills in my opnion for spots 93+

(07-21-2014 17:00 PM)soad Wrote:  You need to think about fast mob kills, so in my opinion for more half kills, so fast kills. I use setup like this:

1 - Tanker or Replace for tyrr
2 - Iss Hierophant (fast reuse)
3 - Healer
4 - Othel
5 - Spoil
6 - Sumoner (light elf)
7 - Another Othel or Sumoner

This a pt for fast kills in my opnion for spots 93+

Thanks for your opinion!
Could you tell us why you use light elf summoner and which othell is the best choice (human, dark elf, elf)?
And which healer do you recommend?

There is no "WHY". Its alla bout personal taste, and where you plan to farm.

Othel - Human, good Up, damage and half kill. or u can use light elf for more half skills

I like light elf because is that sumon has more crit chance.

(07-21-2014 19:09 PM)soad Wrote:  Othel - Human, good Up, damage and half kill. or u can use light elf for more half skills

I like light elf because is that sumon has more crit chance.

half kill 95 + lvl

in gf can start in 89, dps sux, but drop is still better then nornil

(07-21-2014 16:33 PM)olaszosan1 Wrote:  

Quote:The reason tyr warriors all of them are not great is because unless you got them really good gear they dont do good dmg and the 1 debuf they got does not make up the diffrnce a 3rd summoner or dagger can do.

My party setup is 3 summoners all ES 1 BH spolier and a TK.

IF I go to GF I have a 97 mastro warrior.

Yes thats true, tyrrs dont do good dmg. Are maestros that good? You dont even need a healer?

Ofc I use a healer and I just happen to have a dwarf warrior thats 98 so I use him. As far as races really makes little diffrnce in the long run my summoners are a mix of 1 dwarf summoner 1 elf and 1 dark elf all ES and the dmg beetween them is almost the same.

Tank btw is not needed in GF so i drop him and add my warrior and if I go hellfire drop the tyr add the tank.

(07-21-2014 22:27 PM)TheQQmaster Wrote:  

(07-21-2014 19:09 PM)soad Wrote:  Othel - Human, good Up, damage and half kill. or u can use light elf for more half skills

I like light elf because is that sumon has more crit chance.

half kill 95 + lvl

in gf can start in 89, dps sux, but drop is still better then nornil

You use free gear on in your party or you put Twilight and apoc or better???

All the classes after 85 are basically the exact same. The differences between each race is negligible. So just pick whatever you want between the races lol, there is no difference. But it looks like everyone likes more Wynns/Othells in their group which seems reasonable since they deal the most damage.
Although I do disagree with some of you guys talking shit about Tyrrs. If you keep their momentum up and spam mega strike and their 2 AOE skills(which stun and debuff) they do awesome damage for dungeons which I believe does more OVERALL damage and protection for the rest of the party. AND dont forget that they have better survivability than most of the other classes(heavy armor, high HP, and revival skill). So in my opinion its not all about who has the highest damage output.

But maybe im wrong, i use my othell for spoils so hes not putting out as much damage as everyone else says, but I kill mobs so fast with my bots that they only get to do like 2 skills on each mob if you spam right.

P.S. I run two scripts for my tyrrs, one to keep momentum and another to spam skills. Private message me if you would like a looksie!

Event Set with element 60+ and event weapon + SA 300 ele