(12-14-2012 21:54 PM)cobra8co Wrote:  

(12-14-2012 17:41 PM)CDVM Wrote:  

(12-13-2012 09:58 AM)cobra8co Wrote:  i make 400-500mil 24h 6chars 1 spoiler 1 iss 4wynn

1 wynn don't kill enough fast? or maybe 2 wynn? because if i got caught ncsoft will ban the whole party, that's why i'm asking that

if ncsoft will ban your party in 10 days whit power lvl you can have all party back 1-76 1days - 76-82 1 days whit power lvl - 82-85 60+ min in feary

to lvl up these toons from 82-85 i guess i'll need at least 1 wynn 90+ and u still don't tell us where u farm 400-500 24h

and thanks for the info

i can not tell you ... i tell you just is a hard way to go there

LOA is better then MOS?

OK, so sooner or later you all get your chars banned, but can you transfer items to other chars and be sure that you will not get those chars banned aswell?
In other words, only chars that were spotted in boting are banned or gms are checking IP, transfer etc.(I'm thinking about boting on NA official servers)?

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(10-03-2012 12:33 PM)TheBl4ckPhoenix Wrote:  with such mentee coins i can make more then 1 weapon c/b +16/17/18...... let's say 70-80kk each......

I absolutely disagree on this one.
Where did you put expenses for buying the actual weapons?
If you play lets say NA official where enchant rate for weapons with common scrolls after +3 are 2/3 successfull or ~66% then you would fail badly with that strategy.

If you want to make +16 weapon you would need ~222(1 of 222 will go to +16 successfully) weapons on average and if you want to make C-grade weapon +16 then you would need to pay atleast 2.5M adena for each weapon(cheapest C-grade weapon in shop).

Sumarize all and you will get an average of 555M adena for single cheapest C-grade weapon +16 which you are planing to sell for, what did you said, 70M?
And yes, I don't count enchants, they are not important in showing that this would lead you into bankrupt(but they are making the picture even worse).

How I calculated that you need an average ~222 weapons for 1 weapon +16?

Its quite simple.

C=(ESR/100)^(DL-MSL)*100[%] where:
C is Chance to enchant item to Desired Level(DL)(in %)
ESR is Enchant Success Rate(in %)
DL is Desired (enchantment)Level
MSL is Maximum Safe Level
^ is power operator
In case I described above you've got C=(66/100)^(16-3)*100[%] which is ~0.451%.
From this point its trivial.

yeah loved the place the only problem is that every room is full of bots 24/7

C=(ESR/100)^(DL-MSL)*100[%] where:
C is Chance to enchant item to Desired Level(DL)(in %)
ESR is Enchant Success Rate(in %)
DL is Desired (enchantment)Level
MSL is Maximum Safe Level
^ is power operator
In case I described above you've got C=(66/100)^(16-3)*100[%] which is ~0.451%.
From this point its trivial.

I have to say thank you for this. I have been looking for this problem for about 7 years now. never very hard but was always bad with math. TYVM

1kkk

(12-19-2012 05:27 AM)bistabil Wrote:  OK, so sooner or later you all get your chars banned, but can you transfer items to other chars and be sure that you will not get those chars banned aswell?
In other words, only chars that were spotted in boting are banned or gms are checking IP, transfer etc.(I'm thinking about boting on NA official servers)?

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(10-03-2012 12:33 PM)TheBl4ckPhoenix Wrote:  with such mentee coins i can make more then 1 weapon c/b +16/17/18...... let's say 70-80kk each......

I absolutely disagree on this one.
Where did you put expenses for buying the actual weapons?
If you play lets say NA official where enchant rate for weapons with common scrolls after +3 are 2/3 successfull or ~66% then you would fail badly with that strategy.

If you want to make +16 weapon you would need ~222(1 of 222 will go to +16 successfully) weapons on average and if you want to make C-grade weapon +16 then you would need to pay atleast 2.5M adena for each weapon(cheapest C-grade weapon in shop).

Sumarize all and you will get an average of 555M adena for single cheapest C-grade weapon +16 which you are planing to sell for, what did you said, 70M?
And yes, I don't count enchants, they are not important in showing that this would lead you into bankrupt(but they are making the picture even worse).

How I calculated that you need an average ~222 weapons for 1 weapon +16?

Its quite simple.

C=(ESR/100)^(DL-MSL)*100[%] where:
C is Chance to enchant item to Desired Level(DL)(in %)
ESR is Enchant Success Rate(in %)
DL is Desired (enchantment)Level
MSL is Maximum Safe Level
^ is power operator
In case I described above you've got C=(66/100)^(16-3)*100[%] which is ~0.451%.
From this point its trivial.

If you say so.... ;D








IN THIS ONE I DID A PRESENT TO A RANDOM GUY






















And many others... (too bad I lost almost all my Screens with C and B weapons..

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Enjoy your math

Hello!
I read the whole topic and I have a question to ask.
Currently I have a part with 3 dolls (FS, EM, WC), and am currently in COD. Besides the quest drops gun parts dynasty. Spoilar I can not because I have to fill the mana. By my reckoning will arrive later in the day with less than 20kk. Its improve this?
I also tried in GC at the top (not lower GC) and I did not like the performance. It will be worth it when you are level 85?

(12-28-2012 14:22 PM)TheBl4ckPhoenix Wrote:  

(12-19-2012 05:27 AM)bistabil Wrote:  OK, so sooner or later you all get your chars banned, but can you transfer items to other chars and be sure that you will not get those chars banned aswell?
In other words, only chars that were spotted in boting are banned or gms are checking IP, transfer etc.(I'm thinking about boting on NA official servers)?

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(10-03-2012 12:33 PM)TheBl4ckPhoenix Wrote:  with such mentee coins i can make more then 1 weapon c/b +16/17/18...... let's say 70-80kk each......

I absolutely disagree on this one.
Where did you put expenses for buying the actual weapons?
If you play lets say NA official where enchant rate for weapons with common scrolls after +3 are 2/3 successfull or ~66% then you would fail badly with that strategy.

If you want to make +16 weapon you would need ~222(1 of 222 will go to +16 successfully) weapons on average and if you want to make C-grade weapon +16 then you would need to pay atleast 2.5M adena for each weapon(cheapest C-grade weapon in shop).

Sumarize all and you will get an average of 555M adena for single cheapest C-grade weapon +16 which you are planing to sell for, what did you said, 70M?
And yes, I don't count enchants, they are not important in showing that this would lead you into bankrupt(but they are making the picture even worse).

How I calculated that you need an average ~222 weapons for 1 weapon +16?

Its quite simple.

C=(ESR/100)^(DL-MSL)*100[%] where:
C is Chance to enchant item to Desired Level(DL)(in %)
ESR is Enchant Success Rate(in %)
DL is Desired (enchantment)Level
MSL is Maximum Safe Level
^ is power operator
In case I described above you've got C=(66/100)^(16-3)*100[%] which is ~0.451%.
From this point its trivial.

If you say so.... ;D








IN THIS ONE I DID A PRESENT TO A RANDOM GUY






















And many others... (too bad I lost almost all my Screens with C and B weapons..

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Enjoy your math

I would love to know how you do this? I used to do something of the sort a few chronicles back but wasn't sure if it was possible Post GoD. Please PM me!

I love this game only for one main thing: making over enchanted things!!!
Thanks in advance